When watching Caesar Milan on television with dogs it appears that he does not think of dogs as sentient beings. It appears, rather that he thinks of dogs as property or objects.
Much has been made of his "Alpha roll overs" What this basically is, is forcing the dog on his back as this is supposedly the submissive position for a dog.
By forcing the dog on its back, especially an aggressive dog, one is greeting aggression with aggression as the dog will view this as an aggressive act. In forcing the dog on his back, and keeping him there by whatever means until he becomes submissive to the will of the human is Caesar Milan's basic premise.
It should be noted that in forcing a dog to remain in this position a certain amount of physical force is required.
This concept goes against humane training where the dog does what is asked of him because he wants to please his person.
Dogs naturally want to please humans and treating the dog as a sentient being that can decide to an extent to behave well is what humane dog training is about.
Further, humane dog training does not believe in physical force of any kind.
This is so different than "Caesar's way" as night is from day.
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Caesar Milan believes in treating dogs like dogs- not humans- they are DOGS, and have their own set of behaviors bred into them as pack animals. All he is doing is really what the dog wants- to view their owner as the pack leader, sometimes if a dog challenges the pack leader, misbehaves, or acts aggressive to the pack leader, it is necessary for the leader to discipline that dog by biting it's neck, usually not even to the point of pain, just a pinch, or even rolling that dog over into a submissive position to show who is the boss in the pack. This is NATURAL Behavior! The dog does not resent it at all and actually respects the higher rank of the lead dog for doing it.
I have read Cesar Milan's book cover to cover, used his techniques (gently without any pain) on my own always well behaved dogs, and they do not resent it at all, do not cower from me feeling abused, and are even happier and better adjusted than before knowing that I am their pack leader, and will protect them, provide food and guidance for them. They heel naturally, stay by me waiting to see what will happen next, and are better dogs because of Cesar Milan's book.
Can you get the same results from using positive reinforcement- sure, IF you have a dog that thinks of you as it's leader anyways, and lots of dogs are like that, and lots of owners are natural leaders, but not always. To think that an inexperienced owner who lets their dog walk all over them and allows the dog to rule the house can turn the dog around just by positive reinforcement is just nuts- the owner needs to learn dog behavior to understand better how to control his dog, and Cesar shows the way there.
You don't know what you are talking about, and probably have never even read his book. How many aggressive dogs have you rehabilitated with your methods? What gives you the authority to say that he doesn't know what he is talking about?
In response to your comment, I personally have not rehabilitated any dogs as I am a beginner. However many many trainers that are trained in humane dog training and behaviour have rehabilitated many dogs through humane methods.
Just to say this again agression breeds agression.
I have seen physically what Cesar does. What to you have to do to follow the humane method? I see many people online mention alternate methods to Cesars, but no one actually advises on the techniques and methods in a concrete way.
You want a concete way of following the humane method? Okay that is fair. For aggression first an assessment is done. This assessment includes physical health a current check up at th vet as aggression may be due to something hurting the dog. Also included in the assessment is the dog's history especially if th dog is a rescue. If not, then when did the aggression start. Is it aggression towards people or dog on dog aggression. If dog on dog aggression is it because the dog was not socialized properly when a pup.
Once the assessment is completed one starts slowly. If it is aggression towards people it is usually because of mistrust. One starts slowly by gaining the dog's trust. First sit with the dog, at the same level as the dog, but not to close. Offer treats. If the dog comes to you for the treats and stays to sniff that is good. If the dog takes the treat and retreats then have to go slower.
If it is dog on dog aggression can work using a "decoy" dog. This decoy dog must be one that has a gentle nature.
Start by seeing at what distance the dog starts barking and you work with the dog to shorten the distance until the aggressive dog is okay or tolerant of other dogs.
All this, the humane way of training and correcting behaviour takes time, is not an overnight success.
With behaviour the owners need to follow all instructions to the letter.
Included in correcting aggression is to not give attention when the dog is acting badly only give attentio when the dog acts in a positive manner.
Dogs are intellegent and will soon figure out if I do x I will get y.
To the people that think what Cesar does is wrong, they obviously don't know the first thing about dogs. There isn't anything bad about what he's doing. If you haven't noticed, when a large group of dogs is together, or a mom with pups, there are dominant and submissive dogs. Haven't you ever seen a dog submitting to another one by rolling on it's back in a dog park, for example? That's the way it works. When a puppy's gone too far with it's mom, or in a wolf pack, they'll nip the puppy to correct it and the pup rolls over. And if you haven't noticed, he isn't using aggression to roll the dog over. Sure, some dogs don't have to be made to submit like that, but the ones that do have severe behavior problems that you can't really deal with other ways. We can't humanize dogs the way most people do, because they're not people and they never will be. If you want the dog to be healthy, happy and balanced, you have to treat the dog LIKE A DOG.
I've read Cesar's books, and I know from experience that what he says works. My husky was a tyrant when she was a puppy and after watching the Dog Whisperer and reading his books, she's the best dog imaginable, and every behavior problem that popped up has been fixed. The same went for my two other dogs.
This stuff's perfectly humane, it doesn't hurt the dog, and it's normal. When the dog's on the verge of killing another dog or a person, you can't just say 'please stop' or use treats to change that. That behavior is completely unnatural, and by rolling the dog over, the dog submits, calms down, and snaps out of that state. When the dog isn't in that state, that's when you can work on rehabilitating. Giving a Red-zone dog treats and saying good boy! won't help you with anything, sorry.
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